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the libya crisis happened i don't hear many most of these voices talking anything about denouncing nato operation in libya since february twentieth eleven but libya was sandwiched by the regime change in tunisia in egypt on the one hand and that created facilitator the nato operation because gadhafi was isolated with the fall of libya and let's be very clear it's all on record in the mainstream jamestown foundation sources have said that the twenty six who fled after the fall of gadhafi you fought a lot who worked for the n.p.c. french intelligence told them to go to northern mali and destabilize mali and the coup leader in mali who overthrew the civilian government it's on record again on the jamestown foundation website that he was trained by the u.s. and french intelligence services and so not only was my money destabilized and what with terror these courts and so-called your hobbies they're not your hobby if your heart is an honorable obligation to fight against oppression these are death squads who targeted the heritage of mali and the margin people and then nato have wanted these
the libya crisis happened i don't hear many most of these voices talking anything about denouncing nato operation in libya since february twentieth eleven but libya was sandwiched by the regime change in tunisia in egypt on the one hand and that created facilitator the nato operation because gadhafi was isolated with the fall of libya and let's be very clear it's all on record in the mainstream jamestown foundation sources have said that the twenty six who fled after the fall of gadhafi you...
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working closely with the libyan islamic fighting group for whom france intervened on behalf of the nato this intervention with the bombing in libya in their gallant raid of two thousand and eleven so libya's becoming an al-qaeda playground and that is mostly down to western sponsored al-qaeda playground if you look back just in the last twelve months so what now patrick how do you deal with the consequence of what you see as a mistake with that libyan intervention how do you deal with it france is saying that they're trying to prevent mali becoming a terrorist state so you've got to do something haven't you and isn't the military operation the right thing to do. well it's really what's really unusual but really disturbing right now is that without any question without any really debate in foreign policy circles countries one of the united states the u.k. and france are now militarily active in the african theater in a very deep fashion and this is very disturbing you know what you see here is it's not politically tenable for the u.s. or for british to intervene directly militarily so th
working closely with the libyan islamic fighting group for whom france intervened on behalf of the nato this intervention with the bombing in libya in their gallant raid of two thousand and eleven so libya's becoming an al-qaeda playground and that is mostly down to western sponsored al-qaeda playground if you look back just in the last twelve months so what now patrick how do you deal with the consequence of what you see as a mistake with that libyan intervention how do you deal with it france...
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is that this threat is being used as a smokescreen for the recall of my ization along in africa by nato forces by products britain the us do you think that's why we're seeing the ignoring of the rise of al-qaeda or say in syria. absolutely because of course one of the biggest myths in international relations is that the western powers are implacably opposed to ok the last twenty thirty years and not what they will use they will use the ok to threaten some circumstances intervening a great country like afghanistan but elsewhere they would actually. militants to actually topple check you know regimes like the one in syria and in libya and so what it's going to frankenstein's monster and of course we'll get back to afghanistan in the one nine hundred eighty s. and ok radical islamic groups were used by the west to help tackle the red army from afghanistan to help them if the red army in afghanistan and that's all part of the policy i think you mentioned that you think that these are part of a bigger picture about the real colonization of africa how far do you think the british involvement
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activities come in over the border suggests that perhaps some nato countries might be helping the al qaeda group or to get military weapons and to create the causes believe that justifies the nato intervention i think i think we're seeing a very cynical game being played out here in mali and it's a very dangerous one what africa's suddenly becoming a continent that should have been discovered by china by the u.s. by europe and the rest of the world as the place where the untold blue wealth and resources can be and we capture other unpublished as have william and all live with us on the line from frankfurt thank you very much for your analysis this hour thank you well we want to know what you think the fallout from the algeria hostage crisis could be had on to our web site r.t. dot com and let us know what you think let's take a look at what the numbers are so far today how do you think that the islamists will in fact join forces and as kool-aid the conflict in north africa around a third believe it will lead to a large scale nato led bomb campaign perhaps something similar to what we
activities come in over the border suggests that perhaps some nato countries might be helping the al qaeda group or to get military weapons and to create the causes believe that justifies the nato intervention i think i think we're seeing a very cynical game being played out here in mali and it's a very dangerous one what africa's suddenly becoming a continent that should have been discovered by china by the u.s. by europe and the rest of the world as the place where the untold blue wealth and...
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i think britain's interest is in having stability on the if you like the southern florida flank of nato just across the mediterranean from from western europe. i don't accept these conspiracy theories about minerals i think it's really about knowing that we're we have we have stable neighbors stable neighbors but at the same time britain openly backs rebels who are known to have sort of attachments to al qaeda and other is islamist groups there so where then is the consistency. sort of what rebel groups are those in syria. yes yes well if i say reading anything it was more of a geo political in terms of security and not resources so where then why yes in syria no in syria and mali well i think it's a different story this is not. an al-qaeda linked islam a stop arising in syria it's ordinary people who want a different life they want to be rid of a tyrant. in charge of them and this will solve itself apparently without any intervention from the outside i think the story in mali is completely different this is foreign intervention by the al-qaeda linked terrorists themselves this is not j
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actions we're going to go now that because the french are currently securing support from more and more nato members we just mentioned calendar as well is it basically saying that the situation in mali is too big for them to handle and this is going to go on longer than they originally thought it i think again they know that this is going to be a long drawn out war but they don't say that to their people because it doesn't win support so hollande says oh it's just going to be a few weeks it's nonsense it's going to be a long drawn out war but again they're hoping that the instability will spread actually and they're hoping it will spread to algeria because it is the last independent anti clonal state in left in north africa has already spread to because obviously they're saying what happened then in mali what happened in algeria is a result of what happened in mali is there definitely a connection there because some are saying this this hostage crisis was actually planned long before what happened in mali. well it may have been planned before but mali operation gave the opportunity for it to
actions we're going to go now that because the french are currently securing support from more and more nato members we just mentioned calendar as well is it basically saying that the situation in mali is too big for them to handle and this is going to go on longer than they originally thought it i think again they know that this is going to be a long drawn out war but they don't say that to their people because it doesn't win support so hollande says oh it's just going to be a few weeks it's...
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of a heavy air campaign against al qaeda linked groups also receive the just tickle support from its nato allies while the e.u. is prepared to send hundreds of military personnel to train the modern army political analyst patrick henningsen says its business interests which france is actually trying to safeguard with its troops and force. well in the mainstream media will tell you in the short term that the the islamic al-qaeda and the islamic magreb is is to blame for this really with regards to the hostage situation the jury but what france and what your other news competitors are neglecting to tell the world is that the al qaeda in the islamic magreb is working closely with the libyan islamic fighting group for whom france itself intervened on behalf of a nato this intervention with the bombing in libya in their gallant raid of libya in two thousand and eleven so libya's becoming how kind of a playground and that is mostly down to western sponsored al-qaeda playground if you look back just in the last twelve months without any question without any really debate in foreign policy circle
of a heavy air campaign against al qaeda linked groups also receive the just tickle support from its nato allies while the e.u. is prepared to send hundreds of military personnel to train the modern army political analyst patrick henningsen says its business interests which france is actually trying to safeguard with its troops and force. well in the mainstream media will tell you in the short term that the the islamic al-qaeda and the islamic magreb is is to blame for this really with regards...
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for more on the nato intervention in mali let's talk to north an expert writing on the middle east tariq ali. we are getting those reports of the first evidence split in the ranks of the islam is some of them saying they are ready to fight against extremism so is that a sign that the nato intervention is succeeding look affectively was taking place in mali for many years was in the north of mali so where a minority of the country. the trireme people who have been demanding their own state. for a long long time and the people leading the tourists were secular they were nationalists and they were assisted by the corrupt governments in mali backed by france all felt that the unity of the concrete was absolutely vital whereas if they had suggested of confederation of two states it would have worked better this is mean carrying on for some time then it's given an extra boost when nato goes in occupies libya after a six month bombing campaign and the people they've bought in part. from the libyan army kicked out of iraq for consul to our eggs find their way back home with libyan weaponry and t
for more on the nato intervention in mali let's talk to north an expert writing on the middle east tariq ali. we are getting those reports of the first evidence split in the ranks of the islam is some of them saying they are ready to fight against extremism so is that a sign that the nato intervention is succeeding look affectively was taking place in mali for many years was in the north of mali so where a minority of the country. the trireme people who have been demanding their own state. for...
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money to nato. i think there's some defining moments coming for europe relative to the future of nato, and relative to the transatlantic relationship in dealing with this whole range of issues going all across south of europe and it's going have a direct effect on that. there's a day of reckoning coming. i wish i could be more optimistic about it. we see what the fiscal constraints are in the austerity that is being imposed, and they're going literally have to come the point where they have some tough decisions to make. because the u.s. simply not going to be there at the level and the presence and the protection they're used to and have relied oned in the past. >> [inaudible] i would your legacy. >> it's nice to sea see you. >> thank you, senator for coming and more than thirty years of service in your country. you're on the energy and resources committee also, we are continuing to send almost $400 billion a year overseas to buy oil, and your colleague senator lugar, for a long time has told us tha
money to nato. i think there's some defining moments coming for europe relative to the future of nato, and relative to the transatlantic relationship in dealing with this whole range of issues going all across south of europe and it's going have a direct effect on that. there's a day of reckoning coming. i wish i could be more optimistic about it. we see what the fiscal constraints are in the austerity that is being imposed, and they're going literally have to come the point where they have...
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worst there was genuine goodwill from russia's side when hillary came with a reset button russia let nato transit supplies to afghanistan and other major concessions then clinton weave through the olfa and change tack. the economy of science is how did leaders in most go into hope change of mind they doubted states need to have an enemy it's a great way to express to the public opinion why the white people have to invest heavily into building new u.n. tbilisi. in children elevating them in a chain does she'll call bricks and walls all over the low as the top diplomat she's just in the diplomatic cringe colleagues between stage qualities in africa she insults to strategic world partners at the same time and cool china's trade with africa colonialist for those remembering fincher is of african slavery and an explosion by whites that's one insult to fall china's intention is different to that of europe which to date continues to attempt to influence african countries for its sole benefit. fi corporate lawyer hillary clinton's a monster a vicious insinuation here she deliberately stoked voile
worst there was genuine goodwill from russia's side when hillary came with a reset button russia let nato transit supplies to afghanistan and other major concessions then clinton weave through the olfa and change tack. the economy of science is how did leaders in most go into hope change of mind they doubted states need to have an enemy it's a great way to express to the public opinion why the white people have to invest heavily into building new u.n. tbilisi. in children elevating them in a...
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loomis will join forces sparking wider conflict in north africa forty one percent say an expansive nato led libya style bombing campaign of course is something we just analyzed with our correspondent and guests there and then six percent only six percent think that a french reoccupation of mali is what the future holds a smaller percent say that western troops withdraw as public pressure on hold on grows and like we heard as casualties grows we are seeing more and more public pressure on the french president. well coming up the situation of course in algeria has caused the british prime minister to indefinitely postponed his speech on the u. case number six in the e.u. but the extracts released from his speech reveal some harsh predictions with cameron claiming gear up may fall apart our live report is coming up for you just ahead. we speak your language anything about the war not against. the music programs and documentaries and spanish what matters to you breaking news a little turn to angle this story. for you here. altie spanish to find out more visit actuality. mission free could y
loomis will join forces sparking wider conflict in north africa forty one percent say an expansive nato led libya style bombing campaign of course is something we just analyzed with our correspondent and guests there and then six percent only six percent think that a french reoccupation of mali is what the future holds a smaller percent say that western troops withdraw as public pressure on hold on grows and like we heard as casualties grows we are seeing more and more public pressure on the...
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he's also received the gist the core support from its nato allies or the e.u. prepares to send hundreds of its military personnel to train them early and a u.k. based political analyst dan glazebrook joins us now to tell us more about the whole prospects of the mission and more talk about the rising threat of retaliation strikes as well a pleasure to see you thanks for coming on it has been now less than a week since france intervened in mali there already we are seeing retaliate attacks in the form of hostages being taken off france in the country supporting this campaign sufficiently prepared do you think to deal with the fallout well i think they know that this is going to be a long drawn out war i mean the first thing i was reminded of when i. saying all of this would just be a few weeks remind me of nothing more than defense secretary the british defense secretary john reid who when and how month five or six years ago. did you know probably within an hour very quickly and probably without even a bullet being fired thousands and thousands of years later. ev
he's also received the gist the core support from its nato allies or the e.u. prepares to send hundreds of its military personnel to train them early and a u.k. based political analyst dan glazebrook joins us now to tell us more about the whole prospects of the mission and more talk about the rising threat of retaliation strikes as well a pleasure to see you thanks for coming on it has been now less than a week since france intervened in mali there already we are seeing retaliate attacks in the...
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concern for those who believe germany is losing control of its sovereignty the country is still home to nato bases over twenty years after the end of. cold war germany today faces no major military threats nor does any european state and that's why this gigantic military machine that the americans have built up is completely intact protesting there appear to be historical cultural and economic reasons why some germans feel less sovereignty is disappearing and for a group of lawyers getting ready for their legal battle with the european central plank twenty thirteen look set to be an important year and what they see is the fight to return german rule to the german people peter all of a r.t. belin. now take a look at some other stories from around the world and in bulgaria man has tried to shoot the leader of vogue areas ethnic turkish party during a televised conference the attacker was arrested at the scene after he climbed the podium put a gun to the head of his victim and double misfired further investigation showed that the attacker was of turkish descent and used a non-lethal gas pistol
concern for those who believe germany is losing control of its sovereignty the country is still home to nato bases over twenty years after the end of. cold war germany today faces no major military threats nor does any european state and that's why this gigantic military machine that the americans have built up is completely intact protesting there appear to be historical cultural and economic reasons why some germans feel less sovereignty is disappearing and for a group of lawyers getting...
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it will grow and that cross border conflict will continue almost a quarter or so will leave that nato led campaign in africa will happen perhaps something similar to what we saw in libya twenty one percent believe there will be some kind of french reoccupation of mali and the smallest percent believes that will see a western troop pullout and that will be isolated but we want to know what you think go online and have your say today on the situation an intervention in mali. britain's prime minister has warned the u.k. to prepare for bad news confirming several british citizens have been captured by militants in algeria the crisis for david cameron to postpone his long awaited address on britain's status within the e.u. which was he was due to deliver this friday details now from archie's sara for. going hostage situation in algeria of course that was the reason for the postponement but of course we've seen some of the extracts coming out of that speech that he was key to give in the netherlands today and certainly there was some strong words in it he said that there was a gap between t
it will grow and that cross border conflict will continue almost a quarter or so will leave that nato led campaign in africa will happen perhaps something similar to what we saw in libya twenty one percent believe there will be some kind of french reoccupation of mali and the smallest percent believes that will see a western troop pullout and that will be isolated but we want to know what you think go online and have your say today on the situation an intervention in mali. britain's prime...
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. >> reporter: the land nato liberated from moammar gadhafi is now home to multiple training camps for potential terrorists. >> islamist militants sympathetic to al qaeda have established safe havens in several parts of libya. >> reporter: benghazi, where americans were targeted and four killed is just one of the strongholds, but the camps are spread throughout the country. libyan officials tell cnn terrorism analyst paul cro crookshank. >> amongst those numbers are people with direct alexandres to al qaeda. >> three training camps in the desert near the algerian border. that's only 30 miles from the gas complex that's still under siege. a u.s. official tells cnn the militants who seized american hostages likely crossed that border to carry out their attack. >> libya is a lesson in what the international community can achieve. >> reporter: president obama called the limited operation in libya is recipe for the future. >> not single u.s. troop was on the ground. >> reporter: but that lightfoot print left room for others to step in. ayman al zawahiri, al qaeda's leader in 2011, dispatche
. >> reporter: the land nato liberated from moammar gadhafi is now home to multiple training camps for potential terrorists. >> islamist militants sympathetic to al qaeda have established safe havens in several parts of libya. >> reporter: benghazi, where americans were targeted and four killed is just one of the strongholds, but the camps are spread throughout the country. libyan officials tell cnn terrorism analyst paul cro crookshank. >> amongst those numbers are...
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. >> suarez: you've got a nato partner in france fighting against a guerrilla army in mali. it's not an easy task, is it? >> not at all. from a logistical standpoint i thought the itn reporter was spot on when she talked about the logistical issues that are inherent in any kind of war, but they are particularly in hernt in one where the climate is difficult, where the terrain is almost impossible and where you're really not used to configureing your forces in a way that allows you to move rapidly in this kind of terrain. it's very much adown the american southwest and it is a very, very difficult area not only from the standpoint of things like temperature and mountains and things of that nature, it's the nature of the terrain that makes it very difficult to move from one point to another. >> suarez: we've been covering the fight in mali over the last several days but algeria hasn't been in the news for a long time. what's the state of play there? who's running the place? >> there's a government in algeria, it's one that probably we would describe as formerly a republic but
. >> suarez: you've got a nato partner in france fighting against a guerrilla army in mali. it's not an easy task, is it? >> not at all. from a logistical standpoint i thought the itn reporter was spot on when she talked about the logistical issues that are inherent in any kind of war, but they are particularly in hernt in one where the climate is difficult, where the terrain is almost impossible and where you're really not used to configureing your forces in a way that allows you...
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marine general john allen is back on track to become supreme commander of nato forces in europe. white house officials said today his nomination is no longer on hold. that's after the pentagon inspector general cleared allen of any wrongdoing in e-mail exchanges with a tampa, florida woman. allen steps down as overall coalition commander in afghanistan next month. the air force's top general vowed today to put an end to sexual misconduct within the service. figures for 2012 show some 800 reported incidents. many of the cases stemmed from a scandal at lackland air force base near san antonio. an investigation there found 32 instructors allegedly engaged in sexual misconduct with nearly 60 female service members. at a house hearing, the air force chief of staff general mark welsh called the numbers appalling. >> there is no way we can allow this to happen again. the air force goal for sexual assault is not simply to lower the number. the goal is zero. it's the only acceptable objective. the impact on every victim, their family, their friends, the other people in their unit is heart
marine general john allen is back on track to become supreme commander of nato forces in europe. white house officials said today his nomination is no longer on hold. that's after the pentagon inspector general cleared allen of any wrongdoing in e-mail exchanges with a tampa, florida woman. allen steps down as overall coalition commander in afghanistan next month. the air force's top general vowed today to put an end to sexual misconduct within the service. figures for 2012 show some 800...
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concern for those who believe germany is losing control of its sovereignty the country is still home to nato bases over twenty years after the end of the cold war germany today faces no major military threats nor does any european state and that's why this gigantic military machine that the americans have built up is completely anachronistic there appear to be historical cultural and economic reasons why some germans feel less sovereignty is disappearing and for a group of lawyers getting ready for their legal battle with the european central plank twenty thirty look set to be an important year and what they see is the fight to return german rule to the german people peter all over r.t. . now another round of nuclear talks another failure to make a breakthrough u.n. inspectors have again come away empty handed from iran unable to revive an investigation into tehran's alleged nuclear weapons research program and more discussions are shared your for next month while the talks drag on the western imposed sanctions are hitting average iranians hard as an international has been finding out. the u
concern for those who believe germany is losing control of its sovereignty the country is still home to nato bases over twenty years after the end of the cold war germany today faces no major military threats nor does any european state and that's why this gigantic military machine that the americans have built up is completely anachronistic there appear to be historical cultural and economic reasons why some germans feel less sovereignty is disappearing and for a group of lawyers getting ready...
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this is simply about providing logistics, intelligence, and refueling to a nato ally and to a regional ally. part of the hesitation on the part of the administration that secretary clinton described to us on the foreign relations committee earlier this week is because we have a legal barrier to providing direct assistance to a country whose military overthrows the civilian government in a coup. so there is some work going on between the department of defense, the state department, and some of us in congress who believe we need to be more actively engaged in mali and in supporting our regional allies, the african militaries, who are sending thousands of troops into mali to support their effort. >> you know, being a young man, i have a number of friends who serve or are serving, and i spoke with one of them a few weeks ago and i asked them how their arabic classes were going, and they told me that they don't take arabic, they take french. do you believe that we could see a day where young men and women come home in boxes from this region? >> well, sadly, luke, we've just seen that day. t
this is simply about providing logistics, intelligence, and refueling to a nato ally and to a regional ally. part of the hesitation on the part of the administration that secretary clinton described to us on the foreign relations committee earlier this week is because we have a legal barrier to providing direct assistance to a country whose military overthrows the civilian government in a coup. so there is some work going on between the department of defense, the state department, and some of...
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how do you think we are going to be able to keep nato going? what would it take, in your view, to sustain nato and keep it relevant given our budgetary restrictions? >> well, i think an intervening event that poses a threat, um, we saw a little resurgence of nato in the libya situation where clearly the united states was not going to take the lead, was going to supply reconnaissance, intelligence, surveillance and a little bit of back up. but it was either nato getting together and going forward or not. that was the threat of, you know, the threat of a destabilized libya, the immigration consequences of that for southern europe, the history with european presence there, that was the precipitating event. but i think it's going to take something similar to that. one issue that i think potentially could be that is the whole situation with iran and the pursuit of nuclear weapons and the fact that europe would be easily within the gun sights of -- and there would be significant consequences for those nation closest to the middle east with a nuclear-
how do you think we are going to be able to keep nato going? what would it take, in your view, to sustain nato and keep it relevant given our budgetary restrictions? >> well, i think an intervening event that poses a threat, um, we saw a little resurgence of nato in the libya situation where clearly the united states was not going to take the lead, was going to supply reconnaissance, intelligence, surveillance and a little bit of back up. but it was either nato getting together and going...
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at these connections and not divorce them something already touched upon the fact that many blaming nato backing that may be in revolt for what's happening in the region what are the chances of all this returning to wreak even more havoc there in libya. well it's also important you know the libya was not a revolution a year ago it was far from it and what it was was it was a nato in a joint venture with a proxy guerilla force that did also include foreign fighters and military out that from possibly some of the gulf states like could talk are look the situation needs to be looked at as historical context so the i believe that what happened in benghazi there are there are rumors that were floating around recently that x. could off the chemical weapons box were being shipped over to syria and were going to be used to blame assad for using chemical weapons and always we saw retraction out of the able to the u.s. consulate in istanbul only a few weeks ago that was trying to retract from that story they would seem to be going forward with before christmas and also need to come back so ok that
at these connections and not divorce them something already touched upon the fact that many blaming nato backing that may be in revolt for what's happening in the region what are the chances of all this returning to wreak even more havoc there in libya. well it's also important you know the libya was not a revolution a year ago it was far from it and what it was was it was a nato in a joint venture with a proxy guerilla force that did also include foreign fighters and military out that from...
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ambassador to nato, as well as other places. thank you, both, very much. nick, first to you. what did you hear today that would make anything any different in one of these outposts going forward? these are countries that cannot provide host government security. we are not budgeting the money for, certainly, not for marines and military security, and, in fact, this outpost in benghazi was basically an intelligence listening post where we didn't want to have a huge garrison. >> i heard a lot of the republican bickering from the campaign, because benghazi fell in the middle of the campaign between president obama and governor romney, and you heard residues of that this morning. i certainly understand that the republicans in the congress have an obligation to ask tough questions, but secretary clinton was forthcoming today, she took responsibility. she said she'd implement every single one of the recommendations of the accountability review board, and i thought she made a very good suggestion, let's work, the administration and congress, more effectively together on two areas. on
ambassador to nato, as well as other places. thank you, both, very much. nick, first to you. what did you hear today that would make anything any different in one of these outposts going forward? these are countries that cannot provide host government security. we are not budgeting the money for, certainly, not for marines and military security, and, in fact, this outpost in benghazi was basically an intelligence listening post where we didn't want to have a huge garrison. >> i heard a...